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80. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 18 2008, 12:02 AM EST
we were hoping nancy was a ride or die bitch. she's pulling the pregnancy card as a stoolie; nancy is a stupid rat who should've kept her mouth shut- she knows the consequences of being in the business and she knows how powerful her new bf is. If shes not pregnant shes gong to die- or prob.l should die. if she is prego- her bf should wait till the baby is born, and then if we were him, we'd kill the bitch. we love weeds and are slightly addicted, however theres no need for a rat in the world, guierrmo should have stopped her a long time ago instead he let his penis get in the way. if nancy were smart she would get away, and grow some ganga and fall in love with andy. also her sons are putting up with to much of her shit shes looking out for numero uno-not cool. the silas has the strains and they have a house and the kno now, so they should go back to what theyre good at. we are pissed we have to wait to find otu whats next....!
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81. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 18 2008, 6:09 AM EST
that is just unbelievably stupid
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82. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 18 2008, 11:24 AM EST
"If Nancy isn't pregnant or if Esteban isn't the father, then they will want her killed. I think that somehow, Nancy will take over his powerful position and Esteban will be killed and maybe he is the father which will guarantee her safety. "I thought she was faking the pregnancy, but ekjess makes a good point in saying the Cartel would be after her ass if she lied. That would take the show in an entirely different direction. Maybe Conrad will come back and rescue her. I hope Albert Brooks comes back. Do you find this valuable? |
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83. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 21 2008, 8:53 PM EST
Esteban and Nacy will remain together - she has accpeted the trades of merchanndise but HAD to stop the Human trafficking of the girls. She will be one of the most powerful woman in Mexico. She IS pregnant with her love's child. Conrad who? He will alway be her friend. They already established they were not a match... she does not need rescueing. She has just re-established mer moral boundaries from learning, watching and doing. I LOVE her U-Turn tattoo.... He empowered her. It's a state of mind... Go Nancy! No Slave Sex Trade Ever for young innocent GIRLS!! This is a sad, dirty, horric, horric thing. WORSE than drugs and guns. Human Sex Trafficing has to stopped and Nany knew it, Esteban didn't want to know about it but I think her will love her more for doing it. He can get another hole dug in a week!! As for Doug... well... he has nothing to lose, as he said. I think he just gets off on strangulation while masterbating - he's a funny sicko last child - we love doug - he's going no-where.... too much good pot for him lol!! Gosh I'm dying for season 5 - this leaves Prison Break for dead !! and yes, I agree, after the fire episodes... there seemed to be a big shift but it HAD to Nancy is rising, she is the woman to learn from, now watch season 5... she will fight Human trafficing. It's deep poeple and it's not just about weeds. I love it!!! ;))Australia loves it ;)) 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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84. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 21 2008, 9:15 PM EST
You see.. how I see it is like this. Nancy does love Esteban - she never ratted him out. Esbeban loves Nancy. She IS pregnant with his baby. She, stepped UP to the mark, and stopped Guiremmo(? spelling) who was NOT authorised to smuggled young girls for sex slaves to be bought and sold. Nancy, as a Smart businessness woman, stopped an unreliable and decitful employee USING the tunnel to make money for himself on the side. Esteban wanted nothing to do with it... remember everone.. Nancy asked him.... he put his hands in the air. In THAt episode, Nancy had only seen one girl... the "cousin". After Esteban said he did not want to interfere, there were MORE girls.This is not on. Nancy protected Esteban but set up an employee who was shitting on his boss - HER boyfirend, Esbeban. She is Smart and she is wise and antoher tunnel WILL be built and the program WEEDS will not support Human Sex Slave Trafficcing - You watch... this is ONLY my prediction. Esteban will love Nancy more and all us smokers who watched it in the beginning for reasons to "relate to it", will be sent a STRONG message, I believe about human slave sex trafficing of children.... my prediction... look deeper people... Nancy & Esteban are "good" people to a point.... they know right from right at least.... remember the bath tub... - "black and white" SexSlave is WRONG simple. Guirimmo HAD to be arrested and the tunnel for THAT shut down. Thats all ;)) hope I'm right... Its a sad world and we don't know the half of it.... 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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85. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 21 2008, 9:37 PM EST
The show is a Masterpiece. I visited your wonderful Country of America for 3months at the beginning of this year for my first time - was a dream come true, worked hard to get there! I did a 21 day bus tour from LA to NYC (slept in tents in snow!! ) The USA exceeded my expectations in hospitality and vastness - I loved it AND I met a lot of people and made a lot of friends. In pubs, on ships, young, old, workers, on tips, employers, corporates... SO intersting. Weeds covers SO MANY ISSUES facing your Country and I really respect that. Immigration, good labour , structure, healthcare, infastructure, cartels, gang wars, pot, herion, coke, single parenthood, racial prejudice, human sex trafficing. From someone who was born and bread on a big Island (Australia) We don't have the same issues facing us. America will find solutions for the good of humanity. Doug and Andy loved bringing mexican "good hearted" people over the border. They will work, if allowed, contribute, if allowed, and WANT to be allowed to be part of society but it all has to be CONTROLLED - many little people are driven to deceipt out of desperation and thats sad. The world is embracing Barak Obama - Well Done America... Viva la Pot, Viva la Common Sense, Viva la GUTS TO MAKE CHANGE!! It's a great show - Kudos to the writers, directors, procucers for addressing these issues. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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86. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 21 2008, 9:41 PM EST
I mean how the HELL is someone in your country supposed to afford a child with a broken arm!!! WOW an xray to $1000's !!! that's not right people.. I hope your new government starts the long ball rolling...All the best America and keep pushing that 1st ammendent of yours and air shows like Weeds... (btw.. guns are banned in Australia (unless registered for strict and proven purposes) and we don't have drive-by shootings EVER!!!) you might like to support this one... It can be a bit scarey being a tourist over there with your freedom to guns. some things NEED to be regulated better for the good of a people as a whole. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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87. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 22 2008, 8:07 PM EST
Nancy wouldn't lie about the pregnancy, it would be too easy to figure out and signs seem to be pointing to yes.Assuming she is pregnant, I really don't think it could be Conrad's. She has been in the new town for awhile now, so if it was his she would already be showing. The baby is definitely Esteban's, and as a result he is going to do everything he can to protect her (remember, he told her he loves her, so there's no way he's going to let anything happen to her). Part of protecting her is getting her away from Mexico and all of the violence in the area (remember the restaurant shooting?). This would work well with the timeline of things, as Agrestic/Magestic is in the process of being rebuilt and Nancy will probably go back there. It already looks like things are going back there with Doug's letter to Dana, telling her and the rest of the town to come get him. This will cause conflict with both Silas and Shane who have both grounded themselves pretty well in the new town. Silas, now 18, will likely try to stay in the town. Shane will try to stay with Silas, but will end up with Nancy. Back in Agrestic/Magestic, Conrad and Helia will probably come back into play, as they never left. Drama will start when Conrad finds out Nancy is pregnant with another man's child. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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88. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 22 2008, 11:06 PM EST
"Nancy wouldn't lie about the pregnancy, it would be too easy to figure out and signs seem to be pointing to yes.hmmm I like how you think...my prediction - spot on mate!! ;)) 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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89. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 23 2008, 10:22 AM EST
I don't think any of the Botwins are going back to Agrestic. She wanted to get out of there so badly, she burned their house down to ensure the need for relocation. I think there are still bigger and better things for Nancy. Not Agrestic. But, who knows?
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90. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 23 2008, 12:29 PM EST
She didn't burn the houses down... Guirrimo set fire to the bikers property and the bloody thing spread like wild-fire. It wasn't intentional. BUT, since it was out of control... better to have no house than half a house... setting fire to her house ensured it was totally destroyed and yes, you're right, get the hell out of Agrestic. I'm really not sure about this.... honestly - I don't see her her moving back there either. I really do see her presence with Esteban... what if Esteban gets killed? Heyyyyy I just thought of that. Perhaps she will go back there - BurningAgrestic does have a point about Conrad and Heila coming back into the picture... maybe they sell water fountains to the sea-side community lol! ?? Thanks everyone - enjoying the debate and thoughts ;)) 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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91. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 23 2008, 12:45 PM EST
ok - idea... I forgot about Silas and his idea for the new warehouse. What do you think....;)) Esteban gets killed when she is mid-term. By then, Silas's warehouse is up and running and making damn good money. Conrad and Helia go into business with Silas and ANDY and Nancy fall in love and Andy takes care of the new baby as his own and they get married in the end? oooo too much.... Doug.. something bad happens to Doug. Not sure what. Doug will lose, Andy will win. I don't know... I'm writing trash here but it's a good stress relief from the normal grind ;)I think Esteban won't just get clipped by the bullet next time. Conrad....Nancy - nope. just can't see it. they've been there and done that and they love each other with mutual respect, history and friendship. Andy... the sheppard lol! he's just starting to mature into into a man now... he's been drifting from Doug and Dougs morals on woman... he was targeted in IRAQ, he was there for Nancy in the bath-tub. He's on a level with Nancy that may come to the surface because Esteban is killed? I dont know... It's 3am here, I'm going to bed... nothing on TV ;)) 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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92. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 23 2008, 2:47 PM EST
If Esteban does get killed in Season 5, that would be the third guy (fourth if you include U-Turn) she has been involved with that has ended up dead. That, along with her having a baby, I don't see Nancy falling in love with anyone new this season. Things might start to flair back up with Conrad, but if they do it would be much later in the season.The whole Andy/Nancy thing is going to be very short lived. The whole thing has been pretty much one-sided, and will end with a personal realization on Andy's part that his love for her is less romantic, more protective. This realization will put him in a good place as more of a father figure to the boys and a good friend to Nancy, and thus he can finally grow up and do something productive with his life. As far as Doug is concerned, his letter is a precursor that he is finally growing a spine and is willing to confront his past. He's been the sad, lovable oaf for the last two seasons, and like Andy, is ready to grow up. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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93. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 25 2008, 5:43 AM EST
I dont think she is faking it. But if you rmember that the mexicans dont ever let anyone go unpunished. I mean he spanked her for a punishment just for walking through the tunnel. What do you think he would do for ratting Guerrmo and the tunnel out. I think she is going to be held captive, and since the 3 Botwin boys were talking about stepping up they are going to try and come up with something to save her. Or somewhere along those lines. And maybe after the fact there will be some sort of romance between Andy and Nancy.Who knows, this could be a good reason for Conrad to come back. The Botwin boys can recruit Conrad and his crew to help save Nancy. I'm sure Conrad has built up his business since the whole fire, because you dont know where he went or what he is doing. They left the ending open for a lot of different possibilites. One things is for sure, Nancy will live. But she is going to be in serious trouble on either side. (cops or mexicans). I think its time for everyone to come together and help out Nancy. About Celia. I think she has been through enough trouble to be able to find her way out of that by herself. It sort of seems like they were trying to bring her back into the picture after she tried ratting out Nancy. So that was a shocker that after the whole 4th season of getting her back with Nancys crew, now she is getting betrayed by her own daughter. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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94. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 26 2008, 10:17 PM EST
anyone involving conrad in their predictions clearly haven't read any of his interviews or any of the info floating out there.. he's said absolutely that he won't be back on weeds. so yeah, that's over with. i also don't see nancy going back to agrestic. doug and celia, probably.. but not nancy. i think her an esteban will go somewhere new. i also think it's a far-fetched idea that nancy is somehow "faking" her pregnancy. i highly doubt that. ultrasounds have times and dates on them.. that would be way too easy to figure out.. not to mention you can only lie about that for so long. plus, it sets up a story line for season 5.
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95. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 27 2008, 2:07 AM EST
That's interesting.. i didn't think they'd ever get back.. as I said, it was done. But no, I haven't read that... makes sense. Yes, Esteban is a hottie.. ooooo I know I'd like to see more of him! ;) Maybe she'll have a girl! she needs a girl.. Esteban doesn't... tick tock.. too long to wait! They are only up to season 2 here in australia on pay tv only!! I had to download it online! bless the internet! and weeds of course ;)
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96. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 27 2008, 2:13 AM EST
now there's a good talking point... is it going to be a girl or a boy? Eseban has daughters... he wants a son! This is an interesting thought... the sex of the baby - Esteban would love the child and my prediction.... a boy. Nancy will roll her eyes that she's got another son and Esteban will be over the moon and what's going to happen to shane?? I think he becomes a young pimp and seller? I don't know? Thoughts on shane?? Celia... oooo she's a gonner! That's right, drugged, a coke habit and people that hate her... poor celia. Doug??? Any further suggestions? Yeah.. agresstic.magestic must come back into play somehow! what do you all think?when can I see season 5? thanks all ... Do you find this valuable? |
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97. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 27 2008, 6:29 AM EST
Fot the 3rd time, I've checked the ultrasound picture and there is no name or date on it! Only her name, Nancy Botwin! So yes, it's her ababy, but it might be a picture of Silas or Shane. However, I don't think so, I think she's pregnant there, because:1. that guy saying he wasnt supposed to give her that tea or whatever it was 2. her moodswings! 3. the bag, when she came home with the migraine, had other stuff in it than just pills. 4. "Andy said her boobs were bigger than he expected -- which to me meant they WERE bigger since he's certainly had plenty of time to check out her chest." 5. Also, remeber when she was all moody at Esteban's place? when she asked him if he loved her? I don't think Conrad is the father, that would make no sense what so ever? I mean there a few twists based on what we don't see, but that would just be ridiculous. And as we can see in previous posts, he's not even coming back. 6. I think when she was talking on the phone with the giftbasket place? I think that's important too. Although, imagine if she miscarries? About the rest of the cast: Doug will probably get back together with Dana, after having served his crimes, whatever the punishment may be. Andy might to back and save Maria Mermex, but I hope not :P I sort of want him and Nancy together, I feel sorry for him not finding love! Silas and Shane, with some help from Andy, are getting into the business, especially now that Andy knows thw wholes story he's going to protect Nancy infront of the boys, like he did in that last scene. Celia.. she's fucked! It's gonna be hilarious to watch Dean & their daughter save them Quinn, since they wont pay! And season 5 is NOT the last season, season 6 has also been ordered. SO STOP SAYING THAT IT IS! It's starting to get annoying. Season 5 is due in May 09. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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98. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 27 2008, 12:33 PM EST
I think it's imperative that new posters read over the previous pages of discussion. We're mulling over and over the same topics here. Oh, and agreed -- every publicity anything says that Conrad and Heylia are gone for good. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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99. RE: Weeds season 5
Nov 27 2008, 4:08 PM EST
Yeah I agree, sorry about posting a simliar thing twice, but ppl dont read the previous pages so i figured a new post might help ppl with questions.
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